When mortgage company Taylor Bean & Whitaker (TBW) filed bankruptcy in August, a lot of everyday people were left in a lurch. Some didn’t know to whom they should send their mortgage payment. Some, like me, received escrow refund checks that bounced. Some found out the hard way that their property taxes hadn’t been paid from their escrow accounts. And some were left with two mortgages on the same property.
As if that weren’t bad enough, a few days ago I received this comment by Lucy on one of one of my older posts:
I got my annual free credit report and TBW reported me late for Sept, even though my payment sat in their facility for weeks without being processed because of their limited staff and besides countless assurances they would not be reporting anyone late. I called and they are correcting it, however just wanted to let everyone know they should check their reports, just in case!
So now, in addition to being out sometimes thousands of dollars, we need to worry about our credit being hurt? Because let’s face it. TBW hasn’t exactly been honest up to this point. They say they will fix the credit report problem, but I’m not going to believe it until I see it.
This whole situation makes me angry, and it’s time someone stood up for the people who have done nothing wrong – people who paid their mortgages on time every month are now being given the runaround everywhere they turn. And nobody seems willing to help.
As of right now there are 325 comments on my post about my bounced escrow refund check in September. In addition, there are 156 comments on my non-update in October. It has been 4 months, and most former TBW clients are just as confused as ever.
What We Know
Currently, the Taylor Bean & Whitaker bankruptcy is being handled by the BMC Group in Florida.
The Honorable Jerry A. Funk is presiding over the case.
Escrow refunds have not been released.
The next hearing is January 22.
What We’ve Heard
From my call to TBW: The escrow money is there, and we will get it back. TBW is just waiting for the judge to release the funds. They’re being released in stages.
From a call by reader Armando to Tiffany at the FDIC: TBW should be finished reconciling their accounts, and should have supplied the information to the bankruptcy court. A ruling will be made this spring as to whether or not they’ll release the money.
Did you notice the discrepancy? TBW says we’re getting our money back. The FDIC says maybe/maybe not.
We’ve also heard from various sources that we need to file a claim with the bankruptcy court to get in line for the money owed us. But we have not been told what to put on the claim form.
The following is a good example of the questions we have, but have no answers to, in this process. Jennifer commented,
I just spoke with Sheila, I think that is her name, in the debtor’s attorney’s office. She told me to file a proof of claim for this money (I am one of those that is owed escrow, but never was issued a check) and that another motion was going in front of the judge on January 22nd. I asked about getting our money back, more looking for a when than an if, and she could not give me a straight answer. So then I asked her if I would get my money back and she still did not give a straight answer. I am beyond nervous at this point…
…When filling it out, I did not know what to put in for the secured credit part. They ask what you are secured by. This is where it gets a little cloudy. This money is ours, it is not owed to us for services; they were holding it in trust, so I do not know what to put down as to what we are secured by.
I am slightly uncomfortable filing a claim as a creditor because I believe we are not creditors. It is our money. We should be given our money before operating costs, before payroll, before everything. They should be sending back the money that is not theirs, but was being held in trust for us.
Is there anybody who is looking out for the consumer in a case like this? You know… a court appointed somebody. I mean, how do we know our case is being represented correctly?I know the other major creditors have attorneys and I just hope someone is looking out for us. Anybody have any ideas on this?
I wish I had the answers. My questions are the same a Jennifer’s. Are we creditors? Or are we under different rules, because escrow monies do not belong to TBW?
What We Don’t Know
The biggest problem here is that we, the innocent people who got caught up in this mess, don’t know where to go for accurate information. The FDIC, TBW, our mortgage brokers, and even the courthouse offices give us conflicting information.
We watch for news reports, but the few reports out there only highlight the problems, which we know all too well. There seem to be no solutions. Quite frankly, that’s not OK with me.
While we spend hours on the phone and on websites, trying to figure out the next steps we need to take, TBW and their creditors no doubt, have expensive lawyers lobbying on their behalf. Does anyone else see the problem here?
My Mission and How You Can Help
I’ve told you already that I’m angry. I’m angry because I’ve been wronged in this situation. I’m angry because I have read every single comment posted on this subject, and it’s heartbreaking that so many people are without their hard earned money and without answers as how to best proceed to get that money back.
For those who are in this mess with me, contact your congressmen. For those who read this site and would like to help, please promote this article. I would love to see this issue get in front of eyes that have the power to do something, whether that be a government official or someone with media clout. Maybe a little coordinated public pressure will get us some answers.
I’ve never been one to go down without a fight. My biggest fear is that when the final court judgment comes in, it is we who have the most to lose that will receive the least.
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Mr. Bourassa: I am legal counsel to Freddie Mac and do not have access to information on loans which are owned by Bank of America. Let me direct you to Mike Tessitore who is counsel for Bank of America. His contact information is below. I hope this email is responsive to your request. If not, please let me know. Thanks, Soha
Michael A. Tessitore | Tessitore Law Firm
612 East Colonial Drive, Suite 150 | P.O. Box 2351 (32802) | Orlando, FL 32803
Phone & Fax: 407.304.8220 | Mobile: 407.948.3079 | mtessitore@tess-law.com
FYI….I’m trying to deal with this through this contact.
Because it’s the only source of information for people like myself who has gotten burned. I frequent this often for updated information!!!
I have been going through the same ordeal as many of you please keep me informed on a possible class action suit.
What’s the latest info anyone has on this crap? We still have no closure! It’s stupid b/c boa says we owe like $4338 thats past due. Interesting…that’s what we owed roughly when we first got behind with tbw when we decided to refinance.
It’s getting tougher and tougher to sleep at night and wonder if we will lose our home just b/c of dishonest dumbasses that chose to be fraudulent.
More movement on this case. City of Ocala reimbursement info. There is a paragraph regarding the payout that reads:
“Because it is considered a Class 9 trade creditor — meaning it had nothing to do with the bankruptcy, as did some of the other unsecured creditors, such as the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation and banks that were involved in TBW’s financial affairs — the city may be eligible for an additional small amount from the FDIC settlement.”
What exactly does this mean? Isn’t our escrow money insured by the FDIC? Are we getting back our money 100%?
http://www.ocala.com/article/2.....8;tc=yahoo
hey madeline
you seem to be the only one on this blog really keeping up with this. tbw owe me my escrow money and nothing yet. i have been given the run around with them then the new servicer and lawyers involved and so many others. do we have to submit paperwork for this or will our money be surrendered and put into our new servicers escrow account? please help
This post is close to my situation. TBW kept some of my escrow and they also owe us money (about $8000.00) from our construction loan. They said they mailed the check the Friday after they filed bankruptcy, which eventually they admitted that couldn’t happen. But they didn’t transfer the money with the loan, they still have it, of course. Also tbw pulled the money out of escrow on August 17th for our real estate taxes but never paid them. How could they pull the money after they filed bankruptcy? So Cenlar had to pay, but our payments went up $100.00/ mo. which we can’t afford, but at least they pd them. I am so glad our government bailed out Wallstreet, insurance co., GM, & banks, but screwed us average people to whom $100. is a lot of money! Who cares about us? Is there somewhere we should write to make sure we are on the list of people who someday when the money is released will get our money? I have called several times like others and have gotten no satisfaction. I am at least not getting foreclosure notices, poor people. I am now glad after reading these comments tbw didn’t get to our re-finance. Please let me know if there is a class action suit, papers i need to file, someone I need to notify or anything I need to do to protect our rights.
Oh! Guess I have been posting this info in the wrong forum. There has been some movement on this case, I will re-post it here:
Taylor Bean Schedules Jan. 19 Confirmation Hearing
Taylor Bean & Whitaker Mortgage Corp., once the largest independent mortgage originator in the U.S., won court approval of the disclosure statement explaining the liquidating Chapter 11 plan.
The bankruptcy judge on Nov. 10 also set aside Jan. 19 for a hearing to confirm the plan. The judge will hold a hearing Nov. 19 to consider approving supplemental disclosure materials explaining a settlement with Wells Fargo Bank NA.
Supported by the official creditors’ committee, the plan will administer $322 million to $521 million. After paying claims with higher priority, between $264 million and $354 million will remain for unsecured creditors with claims totaling more than $8 billion, according to the disclosure statement.
The expected distribution to unsecured creditors is between 3.3 percent and 4.4 percent. The largest claim, $3.25 billion, belongs to the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. The claim was settled and will be paid under the plan.
Taylor Bean filed under Chapter 11 in August 2009, three weeks after federal investigators searched the offices of the Ocala, Florida-based company. The day after the search, the Federal Housing Administration, Ginnie Mae and Freddie Mac barred the company from issuing new mortgages and terminated servicing rights.
Taylor Bean managed an $80 billion mortgage-servicing portfolio. Assets and debt both exceed $1 billion, the petition showed.
The case is Taylor Bean & Whitaker Mortgage Corp., 09- 07047, U.S. Bankruptcy Court, Middle District of Florida (Jacksonville).
WHEN YOU WROTE TO THE COURTS DID YOU GET ANY RESPONSE FROM THEM THEY ARE SAYING THAT I OWE FOR 20 MONTHS IN BACK PAYMENTS AND THATS NOT TRUE AND I’M STILL PAYING MY PAYMENTS EVERY MONTH I EVEN WHEN TO NACA AND THEY ARE NOT HELPING ME WITH THIS SO I DONE KNOW AND OTHER WAYS TO FIGHT WIITH BANK OF AMERICAN THEY THE ONES THAT HAVE MY LOAN NOW AND THEY ARE NOT LISTEN SO IF YOU HAVE A NUMBER ARE A ADDRESS THAT I CAN CONTRACT SOMEONE ABOUT THIS PROBLEM PLEASE SEND IT TO ME THANKS
I refinanced with them as well and am so lost. I don’t know who to turn to. My escrow had no money and my payments were set to double. My escrow funds from closing are missing and I still pay MIP monthly that money is missing from closing. Yet on the credit report it says my loan is a conventional loan. Who is helping the consumer?
If you are a former TBW customer, don’t send TBW any more money. The bankruptcy judge has ordered that until this is resolved by your new mortgage servicer, any information (negative or positive) related to the TBW bankruptcy cannot be reported to the credit agencies. Hold your payments in escrow (your bank account) until you get a notice of assignment from the new servicer. Don’t pay anyone with out that notice of assignment.
Hi, we had TBW as our mortgage and 1 month’s payment is still being held in the court down there in Florida. I have been getting mail requesting our presence at a hearing that I will never make it to. Yesterday I just received a letter stating CLAIMS FOR WHICH DEBTORS ARE NOT LIABLE. This is RIDICULOUS! Our name is on the list with about 50 others saying insufficient info. I have not a clue but I ended up emailing a guy involved with the case to get some answers.
TBW is closed down and out of business. Don’t waste your time trying to contact them. Freddie Mac or Fannie Mae might be a better bet. If you happen to know to whom the loan was transferred, like for instance, CENLAR, contact them. CENLAR has been very good about getting this situation resolved. I just got word form them yesterday that the first/old loan has been paid off. I only have the refinance loan now with CENLAR.
Don’t give up! This issue will be cleared up…eventually.
Does anyone have a real working number to contact TBW? I can’t get through to anything but voicemail. TBW is foreclosing on the house but I can’t reach anyone. It’s unclear if the loan has been officially transferred to another bank or not. The processor was Home America Mortgage. I know they were/are owned by TBW so I don’t know if that is valid anymore either. None of the Home America Mortgage numbers work either. Any help??
We have had such trouble with TB&W since Aug 09 just like everyone else. Long story short, we are still paying TB&W and they are holding our $2700 in escrow hostage. I have spent countless hours on the phone trying to get this money. Does anyone have any suggestions or know what I should be doing? Is there an end in sight with this mess?
Kelly,
Who is your investor? Freddie Mac? Most loans have been transferred out of TBW by now (at least in my case).
I can give you contacts for Freddie if they are you investor.
no TBW, that’s a good question. I’ll find out and get back to you.
I am so happy that I found this site b/c we had TBW. We had done a loan modification with them and we’re doing great until they went under last year. First we were transferred to BOA and then to Ocwen. Has anyone else had to deal with Ocwen. It has been a complete nightmare. All the payments we made during a 4 month period were not credited. Then Ocwen takes over and charges us $2400 in late fees, etc. We were then hit by a drunk driver – causing a lot other issues – but basically in order to buy a new vehicle, we had to get financing. Our credit was ruined b/c of this mess. We REPAYED all the money for the past payments that they could not find for the 4 month period, plus the late fees, to catch up and buy a vehicle so we had transportation to and from work. Well Ocwen send back our payment, added another $1200 late fee onto it, and said we were still behind. We paid it and got caught up again, but now are in financial trouble since we’ve dumped so much money into this in an effort to keep our house. They have not honored the loan mod. from TBW and have denied our applications for loan mods with them – saying we owe too much $. Now, with the late fees, our monthly payments are $1200/mo – which we cannot afford. We’ve tried paying the regular amount of $700, but they won’t take any payments less than the TOTAL amount owed and keep mailing them back. After 5 months of this mess, they served us with foreclosure papers. We are behind about $6,000 and have already spent an extra $4,000 just trying to save our home. Today, we hired a lawyer. Praying that we will be able to afford him and that he can help us.
Has anyone else had to deal with Ocwen?
I haven’t received a letter yet. Such email confirmation from a TBW VP and a loan activity print out from them showing what was transferred.
I asked for that though via email.
The goodbye/hello letter will be a joint letter from Cenlar, as instructed by the investor, Freddic Mac.
TBW transferred net-funded loans to Cenlar (Freddic Mac-backed loans) on Friday.
I got confirmation this morning. Great news. Almost over for us that had net-funded loans with Freddie. Should be making first payment to Cenlar on Nov. 1.
Hi no_TBW – Did you get a letter? If so, from whom?
We are also have 2 loans that were assumed by BOA. One is fine but the other we receive late notices from BOA every month stating that we are 1 month behind. In truth, we paid Taylor Bean 2 weeks prior to BOA taking over and the payment was never turned over to BOA. So, now BOA is demanding we pay it again, even though I have shown them proof that Taylor Bean drafted the payment from my BOA checking account 2 weeks prior to BOA taking over. What do we do?? Do we really have to pay it again?? We are not is a position to pay another payment.
Any advise on how to proceed? Now we are receiving notices of foreclosure…
I have not seen any posts for a while now from anyone regarding this. Who is getting notice from BOA and being threatened still with foreclosure? WE ARE!!!
And once again, if TBW had been made to notify all of their customers of all the crap they were doing, when they were shut down, maybe we wouldn’t be in the boats we are in.
I am ready to throw my towel in and say to heck with it all. Its stupid and its ridiculous to make US pay for the mistakes of a mortgage company who obviously did hundreds of people dirty.
Bank of America is no better than TBW!!!
We have had NO contact from either place until about 3 weeks ago when we started getting a ‘statement’ from BOA. All it said was what our payment amount was. And then last week, we got a letter telling us we owed over $4,000. And then yet another week later, another letter. Today we got one telling us that we owe a little over $3,000. So the new question is, do they really know who owes what? Are they just trying to screw everyone over even more?
The whole reason we refinanced was because we got behind when I was off of work for so many months. We saw the chance to refinance through the wonderful ‘stimulous’ program, applied, and look where it got us. Right back to ‘owing’ the same amount as before.
Freakin crazy!!!!!!!!!!!
Just posted my nightmare with BofA
I received the letter from CENLAR (on behalf of Freddie Mac) and it says the same thing you all have read in previous comments – hopefully by the end of October we’ll know something. The point that seems to have gotten lost in all this is that TBW came to me, as I’m sure to many of you, in the spring of 2009 offering to refi at a lower rate as part of President Obama’s program for people who had been paying their mortgages on time and were up to date through all this housing meltdown. Now CENLAR/Freddie gets to decide which mortgage to honor?? If they don’t honor the refi, then what was the point of all this?
Jim,
I’m pretty sure they will honor the refi mortgage. At least, that’s what happening in my case.
Have you emailed the contact I gave you? She is the best, most knowledgeable this whole thing.
Good Morning,
I received the same letter from Cenlar on the 27th. I have been told all along (by Cenlar) that the terms of the second loan would be honored (lower interest) even if they had cancelled the second loan and had to modify the first to the refi terms. I am glad that we went to Cenlar and not BOA. Cenlar has been pretty easy to deal with, other than never having any information about when this ordeal would be over.
We paid TB&W through May, but then stopped and started banking payments when we didn’t see an end to this and were concerned about the safety of our money. Has anyone heard whether “they” will modify the loans to allow us to pay from the point of transfer and put the missing payments on the end of the loan? I am holding onto the money in savings until I make sure that our taxes and insurance are paid. TB&W has had our old escrow account tied up for 14 months ~ I want to make sure to have the funds available to pay out-of-pocket if we need to do so!
Yep, it’s unreal. I can’t get answers anywhere and my payment KEEPS going thru the roof due to the shortage I had. I beyond angry.
I’ve had ZERO contact from BoA or TBW regarding my frozen escrow.
Let’s just say when this is straightened out, I’ll refi with someone other than BoA for the BS they’ve given me, or lack therof. I’m sure there will be another bank more than happy to receive my money!
Keep us informed.
Thanks to “no_TBW” – your response is appreciated. I would very much like to know who to contact, but will they give any substantive information?
Jim,
I assume your investor is Freddie Mac. This contact will only be helpful if that’s the case.
Soha Mody, Freddie Mac lawyer
soha_mody@freddiemac.com
Let me know if she responds to you.
Approximately 800 borrowers, who refinanced to a lower interest rate with TBW just before TBW declared bankruptcy, are finding themselves in the precarious position of having two mortgage loans against the same property. The reason for this has to do with a practice by TBW called “net-funded loans.” After refinancing the mortgage loan, TBW did not pay off the old loan until they sold the new loan and then TBW would use the proceeds from the sale of the new loan to pay off the old loan. Just after TBW declared bankruptcy, the 800 or so old loans were apparently transferred to the new court-appointed servicers (B of A, CENLAR, et.al.) before they could be paid off using proceeds from the new (refinanced) loans. TBW was allowed to continue servicing some of those newly refinanced loans and TBW told the borrowers to continue submitting payments on those refi’s to TBW (which in my case is what I did). Mean- while B of A, CENLAR, et.al, thought they had good loans to collect against. However, as in my case, CENLAR didn’t push too hard to collect (not sure why) against the original mortgage. Regardless, THE UNITED STATES BANKRUPTCY COURT, MIDDLE DISTRICT OF FLORIDA, JACKSONVILLE DIVISION approved and TBW posted on their website the “Borrower Protocol Order.” The “Order” is supposed to resolve this issue of net-funded loans. From paragraph 45 of the order I interpret the solution of the net-funded issue to mean: 1st) If TBW currently owns the refinanced mortgage, TBW can transfer the re-fi to the new servicer/investor in place of the old loan if the new servicer/investor agrees in writing; or 2nd) TBW can transfer the re-fi to the new servicer/investor, but the new servicer/investor can choose to keep the old mortgage instead if the new servicer/investor can show that there is something legally wrong with the re-fi.; and 3rd) the new servicer/investor must promptly contact the affected borrower to work out an arrangement where the borrower is responsible for only one mortgage.
I have not yet heard from TBW, CENLAR, (or whomever) regarding this court order. Therefore, based on advice from my attorney, I am escrowing the payments to a personal account until the determination is made as to which loan I will be responsible for. I am not suggesting anyone else do what I am doing. Consult an attorney first. This entire mess must wind its way through bankruptcy court in Florida and criminal court in Virginia, so we may not have any definitive answers for some time.
Jim,
I’m in the same boat as you. I received a letter from Cenlar stating the loans will be transferred by the end of October.
I knew that, as I’ve had many conversations with TBW, Cenlar the the investor (Freddie Mac). Freddie is the key party here as the investor. They decided to into the protocol in late May. I’ve talked to the Freddie lawyer who’s overseeing this.
If you want/need contacts. Let me know.
Jim,
Finally got the long awaited letter that John Felix from Freddie said was on the ay two months ago. Basically the letter tells us nothing….they might get back to us with an answer by the end of Oct. and that certain things are out of their control. They don’t know anything about things being ou of their control. I gave them all my executed loan docs 6+ months ago, not sure what they are waiting for.
Regards,
Phil Grose
Hi Jim,
I’m one of those 800 or so net funded loans. I finally recieved the long awaited “letter” from Cenlar on behalf of Freddie. Basically it says nothing!! They will get back to us by end of Oct. maybe!! At that time or thereabouts they will let us know which loan they are honoring. I have not paid anyone a penny since this happened, and feel like Freddie is holding us hostage and preventing us from re-financing to the markets current rates.
Regards,
Phil Grose
No where to turn and endless attempts noone is willing to help.
When I was with TBW, my mortgage was 800 per month 200 every week that was the agreement on my loan documents, now that my loan is with BOA they will not allow me to pay weekly since I was considered behind in the beginning due to previous mortgage payments that were sent to TBW totaling $1000, so now long story short I am $5000 behind and have tried every hardship program BOA had to offer and everytime I get the same story too much debt and not enough income…..duh that is why I am trying to get help! also tried to go through different programs and was told they go off of credit for those programs, well no kidding my credit is shot I have been waiting for money to be applied to my Aug 2009 payment and part of my Sept 2009 payment so what do you think my credit is like, I have contacted many government officials, even emailed the president of the US, no help is out there and if there is it is totally out of my reach….Any advice I am desperate and if I dont do something soon I am going to lose my home.
I have hit a brick wall with BOA. If anyone has info on a class action suit against them, please let me know. These people cannot be dealt with by a reasonable person.
Is anyone having any luck w/BOA? I received a notice of intended foreclosure from BOA on the old loan #. Called again, and of course person I talked with had no knowledge of new loan #. However, today I called and was transferred to Loan Retention, Litigation Dept., and the person I talked with did know of TBW transfer; however, she could not talk with me until she received permission from the litigation person handling my account. I was promised a call back within 48 hrs. I won’t hold my breath, but maybe I’m getting somewhere. I have hired an attorney and advised them of this, but stated that I would rather resolve this without involving him, unless it is absolutely necessary, as I can’t really afford any additional expense. I can’t begin to estimate the number of hours I have spent in the past year trying to straighten this mess out. Will let you know how this turns out.
Get this, through medical need I got 2 months behind with tbw. I tried to work out a payment agreement, tbw said they couldnt help until I was 3 mths behind, they also told me they wouldn’t accept a little each month. After months of trying I made arangements, $1000 on the 28th $600 on the 3rd of following month. I sent money order $1000 on 28th, on 3rd I sent $600 as agreed. on the 4th I recieved the 1st payment back when called tbw said it was sent back because it was not total owed and they would send back the 2nd payment as well. Well they did send it back but after my late date which made me 3 mths late. Late date 15th, 17th notice to foreclose, 20 days to move. I called tbw told them as soon as the 2nd payment was returned I would send payment. finally got 2nd payment called to tell them it was on the way, the amount owed was @2800 instead of $2300 [2 payments+current month] the next day I called told them I could do it but will take all my bank to do it, tbw changed the amount to $3200. I found out chapter 13 with intent to pay tbw would help me save home. Went and did ch 13 after 6 mths and after a campain of emails to govt and bank officials tbw called and said they would remodify our loan. In order to do this I needed to close my ch13. The week I received the papers before I could I could sign them cnn said tbw was under investigation, called tbw couldn,t get them. Next thing we knew Bank of America sent us stuff saying they were our lender. boa is no better. Boa notified us we were 1 year behind not showing escro or payments durring ch13. I have spent hundreds of dollars faxing mailing proof to no avail. Every mth I get a notice to acellerate foreclosure, my payment has increased from $678 to last statement $1200, ealier boa told us to keep making payments and as soon as they recieve monies from tbw they will credit our account, so I make my normal $678 payment which is applied to last years corrisponding month and shown as partial payment. So my Aug 2010 was applied to Aug 2009 which ads to the confusion on their part, because same month different year. The Hope Team not to be confused with BOA’s hope team [I tried dealing them for mths before I realized I was still dealing with boa] the real Hope Team found out I was within guide lines for the affordable housing program we did a confrence call [before this my payment statement was $678 the same as tbw’s] on the phone they said my payment was $8something which threw us off balance by around $200 so we wouldn’t qualify. They would not redo or remodify our loan until we have been with them for 1yr. Now the year is up. Wed before labor day weekend we recieved a call they were verifying our income and were sending papers for our modification by fedx, should be here before fri,monday[the holiday]came, tuesday came still nothing, called with caller id number from wed, boa had no idea why someone would call with this kind of info and we were sceduled for something around the 23rd but couldn’t disclose what it was, probably the monthly notice to acellerate foreclosure or maybe notice to move I dont know. This is only a small piece of our story I wish I could go back in time and change my decision to refinance but Hindsite….
Go back to your Bankruptcy attorney. They can re-open your case with the Trustee and ask for sanctions against BofA. That will get BofA’s attention.
This is great information, I am not alone. The whole process is unfair.